<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?><!-- generator=Zoho Sites --><rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><channel><atom:link href="https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/tag/simulation/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title>Muffsy Phono Kits - Articles #simulation</title><description>Muffsy Phono Kits - Articles #simulation</description><link>https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/tag/simulation</link><lastBuildDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2024 00:28:23 -0700</lastBuildDate><generator>http://zoho.com/sites/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Muffsy RIAA Simulations Pt. 3: High Capacitor Values]]></title><link>https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Muffsy-RIAA-Simulations-Pt-3-High-Capacitor-Values</link><description><![CDATA[We've seen how the RIAA filter behaves with low and very low capacitor values. ( See all simulation articles here ) Now let's have a look at what happen ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="zpcontent-container blogpost-container "><div data-element-id="elm_eo-8EMiATCCzkbJdHZWYzw" data-element-type="section" class="zpsection "><style type="text/css"></style><div class="zpcontainer"><div data-element-id="elm_NS4agLmKROy_hgLA3Mqs6w" data-element-type="row" class="zprow zpalign-items- zpjustify-content- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_hWdyZ2mUQQWGh9bB-4g-7Q" data-element-type="column" class="zpelem-col zpcol-12 zpcol-md-12 zpcol-sm-12 zpalign-self- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_atQn-PSUSGudzi_HMVUs_Q" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>We've seen how the RIAA filter behaves with low and very low capacitor values. (<a alt="See all simulation articles here" href="http://www.muffsy.com/blogs/tag/simulation/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="See all simulation articles here">See all simulation articles here</a>) Now let's have a look at what happens if the capacitor values are higher than the recommended ones.</p><p><br></p><p>This is the Muffsy Phono Preamp with capacitor values that are 2.5% higher than specified.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_f4sUlfk9Qji0sS6ClrZgWw" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/capsplus2dot5.png" size="original" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">Capacitors +2.5%</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_WTcxiZBCTVW1gu1zJfyK9w" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>As with the simulation with lower than recommended capacitors, this shows that we're still following the RIAA curve quite nicely even though the capacitor values are slightly wrong.</p><p><br></p><p>Now what happens if we bump the caps up to 10% higher than the recommended values?</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_tIrHtLVeQPew8dZe2aFTpw" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/capsplus10.png" size="original" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">Capacitors +10%</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_EFy7n3r_SbS0ZC6QrYbKcQ" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>The lowest level is -0.535 dB, and the highest is +0.186 dB. The average deviation is still only +/- 0.36 dB. There will be a slight attenuation of mid bass and the higher frequencies though, something that will become apparent if we really try to exaggerate by changing the capacitor values to +25%:</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_v201_xnqRxe3YaIe8bDE4g" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/capsplus25.png" size="original" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">Capacitors +25%</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_RMbEfFPkSh-cGszyAYQdXw" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>All the mids are attenuated and so is the treble, while the low bass is amplified a bit. +0.44/-1.16 dB is not something you'd want in your phono stage under normal circumstances.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_4_dIHmLVQYuuY8zkm3BBWQ" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><h2>A Conclusion...</h2></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_6z1incrqQ-q6h4z-xS6iHA" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>The best scenario is to use the specified capacitor values, or within +/-10% of these. </p><p><br></p><p>Deviations that are extremely low will give you a slight &quot;loudness&quot; effect, while extremely high capacitor values will attenuate the mids and the treble. Luckily, these extreme values won't enter your phono stage unless you do it on purpose.</p><p><br></p><p>These are also all good examples of what hides between the RIAA compliance numbers, that vendors seldom show in detail.</p></div></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div> ]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2016 16:13:49 +0200</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Muffsy RIAA Simulations Pt 2: Very Low Capacitor Values]]></title><link>https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Muffsy-RIAA-Simulations-Pt-2-Very-Low-Capacitor-Values</link><description><![CDATA[I wanted to know what happened to the Muffsy RIAA compliance if the capacitors were out of spec, and started with a plausible scenario where the capa ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="zpcontent-container blogpost-container "><div data-element-id="elm_er3EJGboR8yiaLXjNMrCwg" data-element-type="section" class="zpsection "><style type="text/css"></style><div class="zpcontainer"><div data-element-id="elm_OoAGbIolTyylVbOC90cakQ" data-element-type="row" class="zprow zpalign-items- zpjustify-content- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_AaOzHGSqSbu1HLFlF_cCkw" data-element-type="column" class="zpelem-col zpcol-12 zpcol-md-12 zpcol-sm-12 zpalign-self- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_aSL3-19hSh-4NH61q7obuw" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>I wanted to know what happened to the Muffsy RIAA compliance if the capacitors were out of spec, and started with a <a alt="plausible scenario" href="http://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Muffsy-RIAA-Simulations-Part-1-Plausible-Scenario/" target="_blank" title="plausible scenario">plausible scenario</a> where the capacitors were 3% below their stated values.</p><p><br></p><p>This time, lets see what happens if the capacitor values are extremely low. Let's say they're 10% below what it says on the capacitors. Like last time, the simulation goes from 20-20.000 Hz.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_Cz8VwtcxTle-nsxCH4SZlA" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/capsminus10.png" size="original" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">RIAA capacitors at -10%</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_L3IM-IP7SMyAZ3lYBRv28Q" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>Clearly, the graph is a little more wiggly. But how bad is it? As it turns out, not too shabby at all.</p><p><br></p><p>The lowest deviation from the RIAA curve is -0.16 dB, which is all the way down at 20 Hz. The highest deviation is +0.55 dB, at around 19-20 kHz. Even though this could be read as if though the bass is lacking, notice that it is spot on again at 30 Hz.</p><p><br></p><p>What this simulation tells us is that you'll get a small boost in the bass and treble regions, an ever so slightly, very small loudness effect. <span style="background-color:transparent;line-height:1.7;">Although this scenario isn't that probable, it could still happen as most of my measured capacitors are on the low side in the tolerance range.</span></p><p><span style="background-color:transparent;line-height:1.7;"><br></span></p><p><span style="background-color:transparent;line-height:1.7;">So what happens if we take this to extreme levels? Pretty much more of the same. Below is a picture of the RIAA equalization circuit that is used in the Muffsy Phono Preamp.</span></p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_N1_Py5soQcWE-J9qYRUWvQ" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align- zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/riaa-default%20(1).png" size="original" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">RIAA equalization circuit with correct values</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_Oof2vaqmTr6xYCWg76CXuw" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>These are the correct values:</p><p></p><ul><li><span style="background-color:transparent;line-height:1.7;"> C1: 136nF (2x 68nF)</span><br></li><li><span style="background-color:transparent;line-height:1.7;">C2: 47nF</span></li></ul><div><b>What we're about to do is not at all recommended when building the Muffsy Phono Preamp</b>. If you want this effect, you should use your amplifier's tone controls instead. Let's change C1 to 83nF (68nF +15nF) and C2 to 33nF:</div><p></p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_rnDlHiNKQym8V7ohZ2chWA" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/capsextremelylow.png" size="original" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">Extremely low capacitor values</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_ZjWHJyCwRrugFDsKbg87aA" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p><span>The results of the -10% capacitor values are expressed even more. You will get a huge boost in both the bass and treble frequencies.</span></p><p><span><br></span></p><p>The level is -1 dB at 20 Hz and gets compliant at 45 Hz. It increases to +1.85 dB at 200 Hz, down to -0.2 dB at 1.5 kHz, before it goes up to +1.55 dB at 20 kHz. </p><p><br></p><p>You may very well find that you like this &quot;loudness-RIAA&quot;, but it shouldn't be done in the phono stage. Nevertheless, this really illustrates what happens with extremely low capacitor values. Although it is way out of compliance, the result will be a fairly pleasant one.</p><p><span><br></span></p><p><span><span>For the next installment of these simulation, we'll look at what happens when the values are higher than what it says on the capacitors.</span><br></span></p></div></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div> ]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:44:45 +0100</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Muffsy RIAA Simulations Part 1: Plausible Scenario]]></title><link>https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Muffsy-RIAA-Simulations-Part-1-Plausible-Scenario</link><description><![CDATA[The RIAA equalization added to vinyl records can and do vary wildly, and you might rightfully say that a phono stage's RIAA compliance doesn't matter ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="zpcontent-container blogpost-container "><div data-element-id="elm_rdrM26SeRUCOLJO-EzIFVA" data-element-type="section" class="zpsection "><style type="text/css"></style><div class="zpcontainer"><div data-element-id="elm_l34Flc5PTsWYq4BQK2fL8g" data-element-type="row" class="zprow zpalign-items- zpjustify-content- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_8KkHKpesS1WHf35EZ5LH1w" data-element-type="column" class="zpelem-col zpcol-12 zpcol-md-12 zpcol-sm-12 zpalign-self- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_qMqTWHcWQdikKJRTsi8Sow" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>The RIAA equalization added to vinyl records can and do vary wildly, and you might rightfully say that a phono stage's RIAA compliance doesn't matter too much.</p><p><br></p><p>It's still a standard, and it should be one of the considerations when choosing a phono stage.</p><p><br></p><p>The Muffsy Phono Preamp uses Wima MKS2 capacitors with 10% tolerance. I have measured a couple of hundred of them, and find that they actually have much better tolerance. They tend to measure about 1 nF below the stated value, so I did some simulations to see what effects that deviation actually has.</p><p><br></p><p>This first graph shows a quite plausible scenario, where the values are off by -3%:</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_oGRPqOxeREyDZXLQ_6s1HQ" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/RIAAsim01.png" size="original" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">Capacitor values: -3%, click on the picture for a larger version</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_HBDBxcaHT_eL6pfFQWC7Ag" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p><span>The lowest deviation from the RIAA curve is -0.01 dB, and the highest is +0.16 dB. </span></p><p><span><br></span></p><p><span><span>This is realistically what you can expect from the Muffsy Phono Preamp kit in terms of RIAA compliance. Here's the measured RIAA compliance of a Muffsy Phono Preamp with no matched components:</span><br></span></p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_PwCOxFFtTJWkcjZzpIplTw" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/RIAA-compliance.png" size="original" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">Measured RIAA compliance</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_8Y5TYso9SNeGOQV6bePa4Q" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p><span style="background-color:transparent;line-height:1.7;">These measurements show +0.21/-0.16 dB deviance. Just a smidge more than what we simulated above.</span></p><p><span style="background-color:transparent;line-height:1.7;"><br></span></p><p><span style="background-color:transparent;line-height:1.7;">More simulations with really bad capacitor values will come, so stay tuned.</span><br></p></div></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div> ]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2016 12:54:47 +0100</pubDate></item></channel></rss>