<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?><!-- generator=Zoho Sites --><rss version="2.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"><channel><atom:link href="https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/tag/discrete-op-amp/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><title>Muffsy Phono Kits - Articles #discrete op amp</title><description>Muffsy Phono Kits - Articles #discrete op amp</description><link>https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/tag/discrete-op-amp</link><lastBuildDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2024 12:26:11 -0700</lastBuildDate><generator>http://zoho.com/sites/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Measuring the Burson V6 Discrete Op Amps - Part 4: V6 Classic - Frequency Response]]></title><link>https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Measuring-the-Burson-V6-Discrete-Op-Amps-Part-4-V6-Classic-Frequency-Response</link><description><![CDATA[<img align="left" hspace="5" src="https://www.muffsy.com/files/Classic-FR-1.36dB.png"/>Following up on the THD measurement of the Burson V6 Classic (which also shows the test setup and limitations), here's its frequency response. ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="zpcontent-container blogpost-container "><div data-element-id="elm_zD0tvLy5SaS1uS_nLwzzOg" data-element-type="section" class="zpsection "><style type="text/css"></style><div class="zpcontainer"><div data-element-id="elm_c8RYSg9fTx-N5Ok3lS3i5Q" data-element-type="row" class="zprow zpalign-items- zpjustify-content- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_oms_oriNQ2G6xMjnr3FPZw" data-element-type="column" class="zpelem-col zpcol-12 zpcol-md-12 zpcol-sm-12 zpalign-self- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_bqJ1Ifv6T4yO0KAyhVGXTA" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>Following up on <a alt="the THD measurement of the Burson V6 Classic" href="https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Measuring-the-Burson-V6-Discrete-Op-Amps-Part-3-V6-Classic-THD/" target="_blank" title="the THD measurement of the Burson V6 Classic">the THD measurement of the Burson V6 Classic</a> (which also shows the test setup and limitations), here's its frequency response.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_a7aQlfhBQWiLlhzel_692w" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>These measurements are showing up now because the QA401 is not linear. The measurements had to be compensated for that. </p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_kkINk10xR72vIwYS-ehCJA" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p><span>The frequency response is measured with an output of 0 dBV / 1V rms and a gain of 1.36 dB / 1.17X.</span></p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_vDQ-OMUHS6SLdIn97damog" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>The Burson V6 Classic's gain is 0.1 dB lower than expected. It performs great otherwise, showing <b>-0.2/-0.1 dB all the way from 10 Hz to 80 kHz</b>. This is as high as I can go with 192 kHz sampling frequency. The graph uses a relative scale since it would otherwise disappear under the 0 dB horizontal line.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_7JKA5mT5SCywQHhth47mBA" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p><a alt="Click here for a high resolution image of the measurements" href="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4535/38556975096_d57bdd3873_o.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Click here for a high resolution image of the measurements">Click here for a high resolution image of the measurements</a>.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_JNVCrbfCTVaHGbAI1DcEZw" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/Classic-FR-1.36dB.png" size="original" alt="Burson V6 Classic - Frequency response at 1.36 dB gain" title="Burson V6 Classic - Frequency response at 1.36 dB gain" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">Burson V6 Classic - Frequency response at 1.36 dB gain</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_Prjs9F2qSxKnHpVPl796Qw" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>But how high does it go? Time to whip out the Rigol DG1022 function generator and the Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope. <b>~1.5 MHz is the answer</b> (with the noise starting at about -20 dB below the signal). Go beyond that and the amplification still holds for a while, but the signal is no longer a sinus. </p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_eU5pC0DkT16QaeQZgkia_w" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p><span>The signal is down -3 dB at approx. 3.7 MHz. By then it's a pure saw tooth signal.</span></p></div></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div> ]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Sat, 25 Nov 2017 13:25:19 +0100</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Measuring the Burson V6 Discrete Op Amps - Part 3: V6 Classic - THD]]></title><link>https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Measuring-the-Burson-V6-Discrete-Op-Amps-Part-3-V6-Classic-THD</link><description><![CDATA[<img align="left" hspace="5" src="https://www.muffsy.com/files/24527451998_f91774b83c_k.jpg"/>Background To see if the Burson V6 operational amplifiers are viable in the Muffsy Phono Preamp, I went ahead and bought the dual version of both the V ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="zpcontent-container blogpost-container "><div data-element-id="elm_JH4SO8OpT7C3xYnFmVYhXw" data-element-type="section" class="zpsection "><style type="text/css"></style><div class="zpcontainer"><div data-element-id="elm_4NG1I1_JQzGQbyLjb_uaDw" data-element-type="row" class="zprow zpalign-items- zpjustify-content- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_i4Lr4fO0SnCgoulJnauXaw" data-element-type="column" class="zpelem-col zpcol-12 zpcol-md-12 zpcol-sm-12 zpalign-self- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_UrIl9xExQsmlgoVN2cSPRg" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><h2>Background</h2></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_ipnAIPjXTW6IxiYPCWNWxQ" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>To see if the Burson V6 operational amplifiers are viable in the Muffsy Phono Preamp, I went ahead and bought the dual version of both the V6 Classic and V6 Vivid <b><font size="1">(*)</font></b>. They don't come cheap, about 20x the price of an OPA2134. Getting two of these instead of 40 OPAs for my kit stock was quite a difficult decision...</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_cIpeClD7TE-_QSHJkcbr0Q" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align- zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
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                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/24527451998_f91774b83c_k.jpg" size="original" alt="The Burson V6 Classic and Vivid (dual op amps)" title="The Burson V6 Classic and Vivid (dual op amps)" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">The Burson V6 Classic and Vivid (dual op amps)</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_EPgPByxRTTetTH5Qp6tzwQ" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p style="text-align:center;"><i>The op amps from Burson were delivered with cable ties. I have not been able to figure out why... ;)</i></p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_oBO6-ctKS1Oy4cO-Hds4fg" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>I have both feet firmly planted in the objective side of things, so I decided to get the Burson's to do some measurements. I did listen to them in the gain stage of <a alt="my headphone amp" href="https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Side-Project-Nwavguys-O2-Headphone-Amplifier/" target="_blank" title="my headphone amp">my headphone amp</a>, comparing them with both NJM2068 and LM4562. They sounded pretty damn good (as in more or less indistinguishable from the others) in that scenario (both 2.5 and 6.5X gain), so I really don't feel fooled or anything. This seems to be a proper product.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_RgDmGrnFT3-qSfgQiMEdNg" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align- zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
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                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/38343050616_8452fd92f8_k.jpg" size="original" alt="The Burson V6 Classic in NwAvGuy's Objective2 headphone amp" title="The Burson V6 Classic in NwAvGuy's Objective2 headphone amp" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">The Burson V6 Classic in NwAvGuy's Objective2 headphone amp. A tower of DIL sockets were required to make the op amp fit.</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_Xs-kliGCRHWJygOjUPz9zQ" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>JFET inputs are best suited for moving magnet cartridges. The Bursons do have JFET inputs. I would like my op amps to be able to run on +/-15 volts. The Bursons handle up to +/- 16.5 volts. The basics are covered, let's see what they're capable of.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_0Z9VSDpfSDK6vA5NJX_odA" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p><font size="1"><b>(*) </b>Yes, I did buy them myself. They were not given to me by Burson.</font></p></div></div>
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</div><div data-element-id="elm_gNAR4mgRTZym079XxnyL7w" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><h2>Preparations</h2></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_DZzk105zTKmJ8FOxNig9Sg" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>In my quest to measure the Burson V6 discrete operational amplifiers, I've established the <a alt="measurement baseline" href="https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Measuring-the-Burson-V6-Discrete-Op-Amps-Part-1-Baseline/" target="_blank" title="measurement baseline">measurement baseline</a> and used the <a alt="OPA2134 as reference" href="https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Measuring-the-Burson-V6-Discrete-Op-Amps-Part-2-OPA2134/" target="_blank" title="OPA2134 as reference">OPA2134 as reference</a>. </p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_fJK7chIHRmCgoU6AIdn3xA" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>I'll start with the Burson V6 Classic, and <span>I'll have to visit the Burson V6 Vivid later. The V6 Vivid that I received appears to be defective. Burson kindly agreed to send me a new one.</span></p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_6WK8H_ITTKimFL5AiwsC5g" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>I have shown that I can measure THD down to -118.7 dB / <span> 0.00012%, Here's how the Burson V6 Classic fares.</span></p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_xH9CZfePS1C6498i_01z3Q" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>The op amp is placed in a test rig with 1.36 dB gain. There is no filtering circuitry in the test rig. The output signal is -10.33 dBV, which is the level at which my audio analyzer performs the best.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_bKHU0B4NRfmonEMGB4-PsQ" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align- zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
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                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/20171128_143125.jpg" size="original" alt="Op amp test rig" title="Op amp test rig" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">Op amp test rig</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_w2ost-qYQq2f2byXo6Wt8g" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align- zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
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                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/testrig.png" size="original" alt="Op amp test rig - Schematic" title="Op amp test rig - Schematic" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">Op amp test rig - Schematic</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_SKR0MFctTlic2lC191GrXA" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p><i>NOTE: I have reduced the input impedance from 33k to 511 ohms, and updated the measurements. A man's gotta do </i>something<i> with those Tesla TR161 precision resistors...</i></p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_nIqtuQ-jS0OwDiCeGU7dcw" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>The plastic around the Bursons gets comfortably warm (not hot, but they would be perfect for warming my hands now that it's winter), and they need a minute or so to warm up before the measurements stabilize. This is taken into account when performing the measurement below.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_to-PlU5RR9qrQgTRRBeXMQ" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><h2>THD Measurements</h2></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_ZpVD-XuATcuSBwezrUw-6g" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p><a alt="Click here for a high resolution image of the measurement." href="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4567/38668054792_167933d49c_o.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Click here for a high resolution image of the measurement.">Click here for a high resolution image of the measurement.</a></p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_boP1G0ANQiq0EHpKVWw6NQ" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/Classic-1kHz-1.36dB-2.png" size="original" alt="Burson V6 Classic - THD" title="Burson V6 Classic - THD" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">Burson V6 Classic - THD</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_geqxtd-2Tv279be4LSeHJA" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>As it turns out, the V6 Classic is within the measurement limits of my QA401 with about 1.5 dB to spare. The THD shows up at -117.1 dB / 0.00014 %. The noise below 1 kHz shows up in this graph as well, showing that the Burson doesn't have the same noise rejection as the OPA2134.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_bWJ-RNpfQ-aecCSQNcs2Cw" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>While the OPA2134 performed beyond the abilities of the audio analyzer, the Burson didn't. This shows that the V6 Classic can't compete with the OPA2134 when it comes to THD at low gain. Still, this is pretty respectable. </p><p><br></p><p><i>Based on the THD alone</i>, they should be virtually indistinguishable from most &quot;normal&quot; op amps in the gain stage of a DAC, headphone amp, CD player and similar line level equipment. I won't be testing their output capabilities, but they're probably not suited for output directly to a headphone (and neither are more than 99% of the IC op amps).</p></div></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div> ]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 15:03:28 +0100</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Measuring the Burson V6 Discrete Op Amps - Part 2: OPA2134 as Reference]]></title><link>https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Measuring-the-Burson-V6-Discrete-Op-Amps-Part-2-OPA2134</link><description><![CDATA[<img align="left" hspace="5" src="https://www.muffsy.com/files/OPA2134-1kHz-1.36dB-2.png"/>Measurements on their own are no good unless they can be seen in relation to something. Having established the measurements baseline , I want to get an ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="zpcontent-container blogpost-container "><div data-element-id="elm_YjPNIJ31RAGEfI4r7-OxXA" data-element-type="section" class="zpsection "><style type="text/css"></style><div class="zpcontainer"><div data-element-id="elm_s82-kWUXTS-fUZXMWe8g3A" data-element-type="row" class="zprow zpalign-items- zpjustify-content- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_KUQtqbhwQ7Wcge1hEthkfw" data-element-type="column" class="zpelem-col zpcol-12 zpcol-md-12 zpcol-sm-12 zpalign-self- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_9fPQ61wITpiHI8WkA-ueMg" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>Measurements on their own are no good unless they can be seen in relation to something. Having established the <a alt="measurements baseline" href="https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Measuring-the-Burson-V6-Discrete-Op-Amps-Part-1-Baseline/" target="_blank" title="measurements baseline">measurements baseline</a>, I want to get an idea on how the preferred OPA2134 performs.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_2U-f614HRLqStAN5rbz3RA" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>The conditions are the same as they were with the <a alt="baseline setup" href="https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Measuring-the-Burson-V6-Discrete-Op-Amps-Part-1-Baseline/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="baseline setup">baseline setup</a>, and the op amp is placed in a test rig without any filter circuitry. The gain is 1.36 dB.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_1vrBPc56QEigV958MPsOgg" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>The OPA2134 shows a THD of -118.6 dB / 0.00012%, which is the same as I got on the loopback test. Notice that a lot of the noise below 1 kHz has vanished. This must be because of the OPA2134's noise rejection.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_EwqVetRcQAaov82ZlHhQrQ" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>This is obviously beyond what the QA401 can measure, and Texas Instruments claims that the OPA2134 has a THD of 0.00008%. It does show what the audio analyzer is capable of, which is very useful for the next measurements.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_qPROJfvcRr2oMj2x7h3LcQ" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p><a alt="Click here for a high resolution image of the measurement" href="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4545/26924501309_9dc4edd172_o.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Click here for a high resolution image of the measurement">Click here for a high resolution image of the measurement</a>.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_p_MpSGOhSr2uakwGt0oPEg" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/OPA2134-1kHz-1.36dB-2.png" size="original" alt="OPA2134 - THD Measurement" title="OPA2134 - THD Measurement" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">OPA2134 - THD Measurement</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div> ]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 11:14:01 +0100</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Measuring the Burson V6 Discrete Op Amps - Part 1: Baseline]]></title><link>https://www.muffsy.com/blogs/post/Measuring-the-Burson-V6-Discrete-Op-Amps-Part-1-Baseline</link><description><![CDATA[<img align="left" hspace="5" src="https://www.muffsy.com/files/QA401.70.png"/>I've been asked about how the Burson V6 discrete operational amplifiers would perform in the Muffsy Phono Preamp quite a few times. They don't seem t ]]></description><content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="zpcontent-container blogpost-container "><div data-element-id="elm_q17iwWf3RLiPhFXxY341Vg" data-element-type="section" class="zpsection "><style type="text/css"></style><div class="zpcontainer"><div data-element-id="elm_11rt8jM8RzmDc8G8ioTPjQ" data-element-type="row" class="zprow zpalign-items- zpjustify-content- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_UBsqODsETbq065SwnWo9OQ" data-element-type="column" class="zpelem-col zpcol-12 zpcol-md-12 zpcol-sm-12 zpalign-self- "><style type="text/css"></style><div data-element-id="elm_z1mhmE2TTEmm2T8AqKuYCw" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>I've been asked about how the <a alt="Burson V6 discrete operational amplifiers" href="https://www.bursonaudio.com/products/supreme-sound-opamp-v6/" target="_blank" title="Burson V6 discrete operational amplifiers">Burson V6 discrete operational amplifiers</a> would perform in the Muffsy Phono Preamp quite a few times. They don't seem to have many published measurements, so I thought I'd give it a go.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_QSGVjH16Rhqj2KttOkPO4Q" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>To perform the measurements, I have a <a alt="QuantAsylum QA401 audio analyzer" href="https://quantasylum.com/products/qa401-audio-analyzer" target="_blank" title="QuantAsylum QA401 audio analyzer">QuantAsylum QA401 audio analyzer</a>. This will obviously not be measurements of datasheet quality, but I still hope I can find out if these op amps will work for the low signal levels from an MM cartridge. They have JFET inputs and work with up to +/- 16.5V power, which are two of the basic requirements.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_mgulsXC8QyyALvMrCquZ7A" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align- zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
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                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/QA401.70.png" size="original" alt="QA401" title="QA401" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">The QuantAsylum QA401 Audio Analyzer</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_ZJGhGOx2Twy5YGfPSzG_Sw" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>To get the very best results from the QA401, I followed <a alt="the tips in this blog article" href="https://quantasylum.com/blogs/news/asio-and-hypermiling-thd" target="_blank" title="the tips in this blog article">the tips in this blog article</a>. Using the R- output and the R+ input gives the best measurements. I tested signal levels to find what gave the cleanest input signal and the very best THD measurements, which was -10.33 dBV.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_kn4eAB37TPmS4e_GbfJMGw" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>A loopback test on the QA401 shows that I get a THD of -118.7 dB / 0.00012%. Operational amplifiers have great noise rejection, so I might get somewhat better measurement results. It shouldn't be by much though, this is basically as good as it gets.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_JvAwouZyRFqt3d4vwjWRdQ" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>The noise graphs at the bottom of this post shows that using a BNC cable (I tried several of them of varying brand and length) adds about 0.5 dB noise. I can't do anything about that...</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_xeU4cfMfTZiBv9gzuPD6jA" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p><a alt="Click here to see a high resolution image of the measurement" href="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4556/24827830448_420b5173b0_o.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="Click here to see a high resolution image of the measurement">Click here to see a high resolution image of the measurement</a>.</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_P6PFnW9VSYWg9cbJH_I6jw" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/QA401-loopback-min10.33dBV-2.png" size="original" alt="QA401 - Loopback" title="QA401 - Loopback" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">QA401 - Loopback</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_beNxfJG6SKWV35Igdexr7g" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>For reference, here's the noise floor of the QA401, inputs shorted with BNC cables (<a alt="hires image" href="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4547/38646097766_9ed0eb1879_o.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="hires image">hires image</a>):</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_PZjEUiX-QjO997jyRyVn0g" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/QA401-noise-cableshorted.png" size="original" alt="QA401 - Noise floor, inputs shorted with BNC cable" title="QA401 - Noise floor, inputs shorted with BNC cable" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">QA401 - Noise floor, inputs shorted with BNC cable</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_vim7LHDfSkuTlWsMzxi8EQ" data-element-type="text" class="zpelement zpelem-text "><style></style><div class="zptext zptext-align- " data-editor="true"><div><p>And finally the QA401's noise floor with the inputs shorted with BNC terminators (<a alt="hires image" href="https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4545/37813816735_a53f3b8fa6_o.png" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" title="hires image">hires image</a>):</p></div></div>
</div><div data-element-id="elm_8A2Jx07tR9SK7jtn531jaw" data-element-type="image" class="zpelement zpelem-image "><style></style><div data-caption-color="" data-size-tablet="" data-size-mobile="" data-align="left" data-tablet-image-separate="" data-mobile-image-separate="" class="zpimage-container zpimage-align-left zpimage-size-original zpimage-tablet-fallback-original zpimage-mobile-fallback-original hb-lightbox " data-lightbox-options="
                type:fullscreen,
                theme:dark"><figure class="zpimage-data-ref"><a class="zpimage-anchor" style="cursor:pointer;" href="javascript:;"><picture><img class="zpimage zpimage-style-none zpimage-space-none " src="/files/QA401-noise-terminalshorted.png" size="original" alt="QA401 - Noise floor, inputs shorted with BNC terminators" title="QA401 - Noise floor, inputs shorted with BNC terminators" data-lightbox="true"/></picture></a><figcaption class="zpimage-caption zpimage-caption-align-center"><span class="zpimage-caption-content">QA401 - Noise floor, inputs shorted with BNC terminators</span></figcaption></figure></div>
</div></div></div></div></div></div> ]]></content:encoded><pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2017 10:23:59 +0100</pubDate></item></channel></rss>